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Religious Fanatics
Want to Control Our Sex Lives


By Billy Glover
Homosexual Information Center

Editor's Note: Billy Glover, a pioneer of the movement, graduated from LSU in 1955, was discharged as gay from the U.S. Army in 1956 and began working at ONE in 1960 after a stint in the Mattachine Society's San Francisco offices and after attending the Denver Mattachine Convention in 1959.

He worked in ONE's library and with the pioneering magazine itself, delivering it, acting as its business manager, mailing it and keeping its records. He began working in the mid-1960s with Don Slater and The Tangent Group. His comrades in those days included Dr. Vern Bullough and Harry Hay.

Billy Glover says he "had a wonderful journey with everyone, but mainly Don Slater with whom I moved and founded the Homosexual Information Center (Glover was Vice-Chair) along with Joe and Jane Hansen, Jim Schneider, Rudi Steinert, and Don's long-time companion, Tony Reyes."

An inquiry to the Homosexual Information Center (HIC) about prayers in public schools recently found me saying that there won't be any prayer in schools if it is a Muslim prayer, because I don't believe that the Baptists will allow that. Southern Baptists want prayers in the name of Jesus only.

HIC doesn't say much about homosexuality, because in the about 50 years we have been dealing with aspects of homosexuality, we haven't found many specific, scientific answers. Therefore we say we give out balanced information and let people decide for themselves.

But much of our work and what we believe is based on the work of Dr. Kinsey and Dr. (Evelyn) Hooker, whose research proved to people who don't have an agenda to support that no one does know much about homosexuals or homosexuality.

We reject claims of "cures" which in the past have been based on hormone treatments and shock treatments, and so far we have seen no clear evidence that sexual orientation is either a work of nature or nurture, and so assume it probably is a little of each. But we are open to facts.
Dr. Kinsey

And I have thought, based on what I have seen in 'Ex-Gay' mailings such as those from Exodus, that in any case we all agree that no matter how many homosexual citizens there are, or what causes us to choose the sex partner we do, we, as individual Americans have a right to privacy and our choice, probably the most personal aspect of our lives.

And my experience is that it is religious fanatics who keep trying to force laws to control our private sex lives. They don't stop at preaching, but when we reject them, they then "for our own good" pass sodomy laws, try to get children committed to hospitals to force them to be heterosexuals, etc. The struggle against these people is the fight I've part of for over 40 years.

Don Slater I don't particularly like the Scientologists, who would have a right to lead the prayers one day in schools, and neither did our main co-founder, Don Slater, whose last crusade was to try to stop Los Angeles from naming a street after Ron Hubbard, the man who said he would prove how stupid people were by creating a religion, using his science fiction background. And he did.

But Don one day said that one young man who had problems, not necessarily sexual, had seemed to be better after starting to work with the Scientology people, whose offices were down the street from our offices in downtown Hollywood.

So he was willing to accept that some good came from Scientology but did not forget the person or motive that started it. And Scientology has as much an equal right to seek converts as Baptists or Catholics, etc. But as I think we agree, no church has a right, or religion has a right to force their beliefs on all of us, such as making us vegetarians, non-smokers, dieters, joggers, etc.

No one can decide that they don't believe people should be homosexual and use force, or the name of Jesus, to say this, even if they quote the Bible, or Quran to make other people agree with them, just as no one should have interfered with people on account of their race. But I lived in an era when "believers" quoted the Bible to "prove" God preferred white people and in fact approved of white people forcing black people to be their slaves. And forced everyone, quoting the Bible, to stop drinking alcoholic beverages, and stopped people from marrying anyone of a different race.

These are not "emotional" reasons, they are facts and they apply to a discussion of sex as well as of religion, race or philosophy.

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So I ignore the Bible's view of sex as I did its view of slavery. It is as wrong as is the Quran on both issues. Its contradictions are obvious to any sane person who understands that just because the Constitution allowed slavery did not make slavery right. Just because the Constitution denied women the right to vote didn't make it right either.

Now there are still issues about which I don't believe we truly understand the best answer, such as abortion.

I have one view, Don had another, yet we worked together for 40 years and respected each other's views. We also disagreed about politics. And we worked with people who were homosexual but disagreed with each other on almost every aspect of life - we dealt with vegetarians and meat-eaters, on animal lovers who hated the gay rodeo people, the gay atheists don't like the gay church people, drag queens don't like the gay cowboys, and leather people don't like or I should say agree with the gay faeries.

If someone is unhappy being homosexual and thinks that they would like a referral to a source that might help them change, I have no problem giving them Exodus' address.

Perhaps the country's most fanatical anti-gay religious leader, the Rev. Pat Robertson I don't make money or gain power from keeping lots of people gay nor do I lose if lots of people change to heterosexuality. I don't think 'Ex-Gay' groups should make money or gain power by trying to force someone to stop behaving homosexually - and I don't think and therefore I have no more concern about dealing with Ex-Gays as I would seeing a Methodist Church welcome someone who no longer wants to be Catholic or have someone change from Jehovah's Witness to Mormon beliefs.

I do get tired of the converts to non-smoking who suddenly become fanatical about people who do smoke.

I am one of the "pure" homosexual citizens on Kinsey's scale. But I don't look down on those who change - and it isn't just Ann Heche or some celebrity that does. But I accept Kinsey's research and that means that for every person who becomes homosexual, a heterosexual becomes homosexual, but not permanently, and the we have the asexuals and the bisexuals and trans people, so life is interesting.

These remarks don't answer all questions, but they give some background to show why I work in this movement and why I think that there is little in life that is perfectly black or white and the Taliban proves currently that point - and I believe it is the responsibly of Muslims to speak out against the Taliban, just as it was the responsibility of Christians to speak out against Jerry Falwell/Pat Robertson when they say something that is not true. But that doesn't make all Christians responsible or make the majority of Muslims guilty of what the fanatics/Taliban do.

That fact that Americans today no longer believe in slavery and women in American can vote, proves to me that things change, and I believe for the better. Hopefully it won't take another Civil War to change things still wrong about our nation and the world.



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